#good omens discontinuity

[kimberleyjean]

Good Omens S2 Discontinuity Roundup

Hello Good Omens fans! Did you know the Good Omens team has put a lot of work into making “errors'' in the second season? Whether you were already aware, or just catching up, please take a look at the links below. Clicking any link will take you to one of the original posts that mentioned the discontinuity.

This post will continue to be updated and extended as new meta are published. Is there anything missing that you'd like to add? Reblogs, comments or messages are welcome!

Why are there so many discontinuities? Well, existing theories include different perspectives being shown, time-loops, separate timelines, a story told “out of order” and more! What's your opinion?

Discontinuities across multiple episodes:

Crowley’s sideburns.

Crowleys’ sunglasses.

The bookshop clock is frequently showing the “wrong” time (and other time inconsistencies).

The bookshop porch pillars/columns are sometimes clean, sometimes marked.

Randomly dusty streets (on a closed set no less!).

Street signage (Maggie’s and 1001 nights).

Almost every scene with visible extras, see here, here and here for examples.

Episode 1

There's TWO scrolls in Before the Beginning?

Gabriel’s/Jim’s entrance happens twice.

Crowley's conversation with Shax in the park shows him putting down the newspaper twice, and Shax's bag is all over the place.

Honolulu Roast sign.

Moving lamps inside GMCoGMD.

Disappearing eccles cakes.

Crowley's watch is set an hour ahead of his phone.

Episode 2

The lane where Crowley parks his Bentley varies between being wet and dry as well as the position it’s parked in, the colour grading, and the amount of dust on the Bentley windscreen! Also - the backdrop of the lane where Crowley parks the Bentley is impossible.

The amount of dust on Jim’s book changes in between cuts.

Job Minisode - varying wigs used for Bildad.

Episode 3

Muriel's arrival continues from a much earlier scene in E2 - see here and here.

Aziraphale parks in an unexplained location before going to the Resurrectionist pub, and also mysteriously loses his suitcase.

Resurrectionist Pub’s outdoor sign has two versions (no I don’t just mean the Jesus side!).

Bentley now 4-door (may be explained by the transformation sequence).

Awning of a new age, extras are discontinuous and standins for Nina and Maggie are visible.

Edinburgh Flashback - Crowley’s muttonchops change in size during the mausoleum scene.

Episode 4

Each time they are at the Windmill theatre, items in the background keep disappearing.

The polaroids (yes, two!) on screen are different sizes.

The polaroid itself is very confusing with Crowley’s weird arm.

The morse code in Hell is saying something slightly different to the loud speaker...

Episode 5

Nina and Maggie switch places? (Who knew they could teleport like that lol?)

High ranking demons are bottom of the barrel?

The “Surrender the angle” sign is thrown in twice?

A child randomly appears upon exit from the ball (approx 32:36).

Episode 6

Gabriel’s statue sometimes has a cross, sometimes not.

Crowley/David's stand-in is visible as Nina and Maggie leave.

French restaurant Fairy lights.

Final 15 clock shenanigans - why does the clock change from 9:25 to 9:40?

Are there two suns at the end of the episode?

These are the one's I've seen published so far and I'll keep adding to the list as more are published. In the meantime, if you spot anything missing from my list, please share the post about it :)

[cobragardens]

5 Good Omens Timefucks that Haunt Me

1.

Why is this here? Why is this line included? Is it just to add texture, to imply that larger world of corporate fascism of which Crowley and Aziraphale are subjects and victims and little worker bees? If so, why "They've started early" specifically? Why not "I wouldn't have expected that shrub to be the first to go" or "Aw, I liked that rock formation"?

Crawly doesn't make this comment in an offhand way: he sounds a bit taken aback and not thrilled that things have kicked off sooner than he anticipated. But it doesn't ultimately seem to make any difference to this scene, so why do we, the audience, need to know Hell started early?

2.

This one I'm not as confident will turn out to be significant, because iirc it appears in the book, which was a complete story when written, and because it serves a narrative purpose: it puts Agnes Nutter in charge of the situation, not her murderers. By backfooting Witchfinder Major Pulsifer, Agnes startles him enough she's able to walk past him without Pulsifer seizing her and discovering the extra 80 lbs of gunpowder and roofing nails in her skirts.

But. Agnes Nutter's sense of time is Nice and Accurate, and she notices the witchburning party are late and remarks on it to herself before she says anything to Pulsifer. So assuming a few minutes to position Agnes, tie her to the stake, and read the charges and conviction against her, Pulsifer and Agnes' neighbors are 12-15 minutes later than they should be. Why?

If the book answers this question, I don't recall; the show does not. And again, it seems to make no ultimate difference to this scene.

I'm not saying this was even purposely included in S1 as a timefuck. I am suggesting that as Gaiman seems to be fucking with time or timelines in this story, even if he and Pratchett didn't plan it like this when discussing the sequel, a retcon is hardly out of the question.

3.

As others have pointed out, Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5 is 45-55 minutes long. If you're listening to it on 78s instead of LPs because you are a CRAZY PERSON, it's going to take you more like 1 hour 5 minutes, because one side of a 78 holds, at most, 5 minutes of music, so every 5 minutes you have to get up and flip or switch the record.

Shostakovich wrote his 5th symphony in response to criticism in the state newspaper (possibly penned by Stalin himself) that his previous work didn't suck the Communist Party's dick hard enough--the kind of criticism that put him in danger of being sent to prison or killed. At the time it was first performed in 1937, Symphony No. 5 was considered a massive triumph, walking the line perfectly between Shostakovich's artistic standards and the Communist Party's demands of him.

The choice is symbolically significant, but it's a symphony, so whoever's censoring it isn't censoring lyrics or information. Again, why? Why is a 45-55-minute symphony only 21 minutes long? What did the time thief do with the 24-34 minutes?

4.

Here's the rug that covers the portal to Heaven in Episode 1:

Here's the rug in Ep. 2:

Aziraphale does not change this rug for the party. We know this bc we see it in Episode 5 when Mrs Sandwich enters the bookshop and the party is in full swing:

Now here's Aziraphale moving the circular rug to expose the portal to Heaven:

But here's Crowley, putting the rug back:

Why are there two different rugs?

5.

Every end credits track has the first line of "Everyday" embedded in it But after the line from "Everyday," at the end of Episode 4, the theme skips twice like a vinyl record, and then is stopped by whoever controls the turntable and restarted, with several seconds of music having been skipped over.

This is not the first time it has mattered to a character in Good Omens what we in the audience see and hear. I argue here that God asks Aziraphale what he did with the flaming sword She gave him in order to show us the audience who Aziraphale is. God also addresses us the audience directly in S1, not only narrating about characters omnisciently but speaking to us about Herself in first person.

Now we evidently have a second character who has gone meta and is changing what we the audience experience of this story, and--indications are good--the story itself.

[251-dmr]

Connecting Two of Michael's E1 Scenes

A few days ago I noticed that Michael's position sitting at the desk when she's talking to Beelzebub is basically identical to when she's sitting at the desk when the alarm goes off.

I've put the two together, taking out everything in-between, into one clip.

The one scene follows surprisingly neatly into the other. Yet they are at opposite ends of the episode.

It could be a coincidence, a style choice, for these two scenes to be so similar to each other.

Or, these two scenes are actually one scene, in-universe, but we've been shown it split apart.

But if it is one scene, it raises questions.

Because in-between these "two" scenes we are shown the following happening, in the following order:

Gabriel getting named Jim, discovering cocoa, the Terrible Thing, and bringing in the box.

Muriel finding the matchbox in heaven.

Aziraphale and Crowley chatting in the coffee shop.

The fight in the back room and Crowley storming off.

Nina and Maggie getting locked in the coffee shop.

Muriel and Saraqael showing the matchbox to Michael and Uriel.

Beelzebub taking Crowley to hell to talk about the missing Gabriel.

Crowley returning to the book shop.

The I Was Wrong dance.

The hiding miracle.

If the full scene took place early in the episode, this might imply that the alarm went off before the hiding miracle happened. And if the full scene took place late in the episode, that implies that Beez talked to Crowley in hell before getting the call from Michael.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Do you agree that these scenes go together? Does it make you question any other sequences of events? Would it make you question what triggered the alarm?

[somehow-a-human]

The Ineffable Detective Agency Presents: Street Seating - A Disappearing Act!

As @noneorother mentioned the other day, we’re going through the archives over @ineffable-detective-agency and trying to post discontinuities and clues that haven’t been shared yet! 

Have you ever noticed the outdoor seating on Whickber street? Just in front of the Deli?

Don't see it? Look closer, this one, here!

You can also see it up close when Maggie and Nina have their “Awning of a New Age” moment nearby. 

These tables and their surrounding hedges are present consistently throughout episodes 1-3 but when we get to episode 4, take a look at Whickber street when Aziraphale returns from his Edinburgh trip…

Um, where did it go? The outdoor seating has mysteriously disappeared, and we know it is a physical prop, so the crew had to go about removing it all together, they couldn’t just use VFX. Why remove it for this scene? Did they really just need the Bentley to drive that close to the curb or is there something off about this version of Whickber street? 

By the time Crowley returns again the next morning in Episode 5, the seating area is back, you can see it just behind Aziraphale.

It’s present throughout the rest of the season, and visible even in the final scene. 

So, what is special about the morning Aziraphale returns from Edinburgh? Douglas MacKinnon mentioned that there was an important clue in that scene, could this have been what he was referring to? Let's hear your theories and thoughts! And as always, be kind to each other <3

Special thanks to @kimberleyjean for her lovely screenshotting skills, and the rest of the detectives @theastrophysicistnextdoor, @noneorother, @komorezuki, @maufungi, @lookingatacupoftea, @havemyheartaziraphale, @251-dmr, @dunkthebiscuit, @ghstptats <3

[rada-76]

«Невыразимое детективное агентство» представляет: что произошло «Перед началом»?

Этот пост перевела @Rada_76

Привет, охотники за подсказками и детективы Good Omens! Я очень рада поделиться тем, что мы обнаружили в «Перед Началом»  (Before the Beginning). Читайте дальше, если хотите увидеть то, что еще никто не заметил!

Короче говоря, что-то «не так» с «Благими знамениями» — особенно со вторым сезоном. Хотя зоркие уже задокументировали ряд странных вещей во втором сезоне (список постов здесь), мне ни разу не попадалось, чтобы кто-то подвергал сомнению то, что было представлено в сцене «Перед Началом». Давайте взглянем поближе, хорошо?

Помните тот свиток, нужный, чтобы создать звездную туманность? Так вот, угадайте что? Он изменяется!

Вот первый свиток, который мы видим на экране, я назову его «новым» свитком. Обратите внимание на прямые края и совершенно безупречный вид, как у совершенно новой бумаги:

Затем внезапно вот как все это выглядит в руках Азирафеля, когда они начинают создавать туманность:

Ого, выглядит довольно старым и потрепанным! На нем есть надрывы, он немного выцветший, видно несколько волнистых замятий, проходящих через него. Это значительно более изношенный свиток, чем тот, который нам только что показали. Давайте покажем его крупным планом, просто чтобы убедиться:

Да, это определенно не тот же свиток!

Во время этой сцены старый свиток снова виден крупным планом у Азирафеля, держащего его. Однако, как только Кроули предлагает ему положить его, это снова новый свиток. (И в этот момент свиток исчезает в никуда, как инструмент мультяшки, внезапно возникающий и пропадающий в мультфильме; или уплывает в космос, чтобы затеряться навсегда).

Итак... есть ДВА свитка?

Ну, да, но также и нет. Если вы задаетесь вопросом: «Эти свитки оба настоящие? Вы хотите сказать, что их было два на съемочной площадке?», то короткий ответ — нет, это было сделано с помощью VFX (“Videoproductiebedrijf Pro Motion Film”/“Профессиональное производство фильмов”. Аббревиатура для визуальных эффектов: создание на компьютере таких изображений в кино или развлекательных программах, которые можно смешивать с живым действием.) Чтобы объяснить, откуда мы это знаем, я передам слово нашему постоянному арт-директору, @noneorother:

Всем привет, это @noneorother. Конечно. Это в основном связано с тенью внутри рулонов свитка и под правым завитком. Вы можете видеть, что когда это настоящий свиток, тени все оранжевые или коричневые из-за подповерхностного рассеивания:

Это происходит, когда свет частично проходит через тонкий пористый объект наподобие кожи или бумаги. Так что когда свиток новый, он настоящий. Там, где добавлен визуальный эффект "свиток теперь старый" посредством VFX поверх кадров, это очень хорошо отслеживается, но больше нет подповерхностного рассеивания, потому что это сделано с помощью VFX, а не снято. Так что тени теперь базово-черные внутри рулона и с правой стороны изображения. Это VFX-свиток:

Уже один раз была идеально отрисована анимация созвездий в центре свитка так что, скорее всего, было бы не очень дорого еще раз отрисовать "старый свиток" (дёшево и сердито).”

Спасибо, @noneorother! Вот и все, ребята, команда Good Omens намеренно создала некоторые кадры со старым свитком с помощью VFX, а некоторые кадры — без. У них была отрисованная модель старого свитка и была возможность разместить его везде, где надо, так как же они могли совершить «ошибку», добавляя его кое-где, а не везде? Это не было связано с бюджетом. Если бы это было связано с бюджетом, они бы изначально не создавали старый свиток с помощью VFX.

Лично я думаю, что эта непоследовательность должна была сказать нам, преданным пересматривателям, что то, что мы изначально увидели в сезоне 2, было не всей историей. Во время сезона 2 происходит что-то еще. Что-то, что, в зависимости от того, что мы найдем, может сделать продолжение истории еще более приятным.

Итак, зачем это делать? Эта сцена передана с разных точек зрения? Видим ли мы воспоминания разных персонажей об одном и том же событии? Если да, то почему это важно? Кто-то вмешивается в прошлые события? Произошло ли «Перед Началом» несколько раз, и мы увидели склеенную версию? Что вы думаете?

Еще один вопрос...

Другой вопрос, которым стоит задаться (и который Азирафель любезно задает нам): «каким краем вверх» повернуть свиток? Внимательно посмотрите на центральные кольца.

Это верхний способ (маленькие кольца справа)?

Или нижний способ (маленькие кольца слева)?

... и что будет, если создать перевернутую туманность, интересно? Здесь мне вспоминаются слова песни “Соловей пел на Беркли-сквер”:

Луна, что задержалась над Лондоном Бедная озадаченная луна, она нахмурилась Откуда она могла знать, что мы двое так влюблены?  Весь этот чертов мир казался перевернутым

В сезоне, где что-нибудь то и дело движется «вниз-вверх», а ответ на загадку Гавриила получают, перевернув коробку доставки вверх дном, это еще один переворот «вверх-вниз», который мы можем добавить в список!

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Если вы следили за нашими публикациями о «Благих знамениях» до сих пор, вы знаете, что это не единственный раз, когда сцены были непоследовательными или прерывистыми. Если это для вас в новинку, пожалуйста, ознакомьтесь с моим обзором о прерывистости 2-го сезона здесь. Для получения наших дополнительных публикаций, а также коллекции улик и метаданных со всего фандома, см. здесь.

Однако это еще не все, так что следите за будущими обновлениями.

Если вы пока не ломаете голову над «Благими знамениями», но хотели бы присоединиться, пожалуйста, сделайте это! Мы будем рады услышать, что вы найдете — вы можете использовать тег #ineffable mystery (непостижимая тайна).

Особая благодарность @noneorother, @embracing-the-ineffable, and to all the other lovely people at @ineffable-detective-agency (@theastrophysicistnextdoor, @ghstptats, @somehow-a-human, @lookingatacupoftea, @dunkthebiscuit @havemyheartaziraphale, @komorezuki, @251-dmr, @maufungi).

[cobragardens]

Requisitions didn't have a full legion of demons to spare but silver linings, Gaiman was kind enough to give the audience a creeping sense of dread and unease as a free bonus just for watching S2

Are there also two versions of the columns in front of the bookshop?

@embracing-the-ineffable has a great post about clue hunting and inconsistencies. The latest one they found, the coffee shop board appearing in the middle of a scene, was great. I'll also humbly propose a new one : that there are two versions of the columns in front of A.Z.Fell & co. Please bear with a stupid amount of screenshots with time codes to better show the context. Here is every appearance of the front door of the bookshop in episodic order. Episode 1

When we first see the bookshop in S2 and then when Jimbriel arrives for the first time (?) we get really clear shots of the pillars. There are two big marks on the right hand column in the second scene, but not in the first.

Episode 2

All clear for all of episode 2, no markings. Episode 3

At the opening in episode 3 we get a clean pillar, and from 39mins onwards when Crowley comes out to talk to Shax, it's dirty. Seems to be pretty consistent within scenes. Episode 4

Episode 4 is tricky because we're in the 1941 minisode for almost the whole episode. But inside of the minisode, the pillar is clean, and when Crowley is handing the boxes back, it's seems *maybe dirty*. Episode 5

Episode 5 is where we see the most of the pillars, and they are clean all the way up to the attack on the bookshop, including when all the traders enter the shop. Then a funny thing happens. We get a shot of Mrs.Cheng touching the right-hand pillar, and looking worried. She's the only person to touch the pillar all season besides the next bit.

During the evacuation, a demon leans on that pillar in the exact spot where it's dirty when we see the dirt in other episodes.

Episode 6

Episode 6 is also difficult because we barely see unobscured pillars even though people are coming in and out. However, you can catch that in the evacuation of Nina and Maggie by Crowley they are clean, and when they leave after advising Crowley I'm going to put that solidly in the *I see dirt* category, but it's unclear. So it seems that just like the clock shenanigans, the pillars are wacky mostly in episode 1 and episode 6. But it always goes from clean to dirty in every episode when it happens. I mean, there is every possibility that the actor fucked up the pillar in the attack scene and then they had to film scenes out of order for the rest of the series and just... didn't clean it? I dunno. Am I going a little Banana Shoelace Gorilla here? You can read my meta post "The end?" if you want to know where I think this all leads.

[kimberleyjean]

The Ineffable Detective Agency Presents: What do you mean there are TWO Edens??

Do you remember how we were shown those two different shots of the Eden walls in S1? One is the zoom in, the other a zoom out and they bookend the scene. Here they are back to back...

I've not seen anyone mention it before but these are DIFFERENT WALLS. Yes, you heard me correctly. We have been shown two totally different Edens. Let's talk about it shall we?

The devil's in the detail...

Try to think back and remember - how many spikes jut out from the walls of Eden? I’ll make it easy - is it 7 or 10?

Did you guess 7? Well, congratulations, you’re half correct! 

Did you guess 10? Well, congratulations, you’re also half correct!

That’s right - we see TWO versions of Eden in that sequence.

Here’s the Eden we’re shown first, as the camera sweeps in over the vast sands, and God narrates over the top. Look carefully at the design of the walls here, particularly those spikes. There are supports which have three spikes coming out of them. Take a look at the portions in between...

10 spikes!

And then at the end of this sequence, here are Crowley and Azriaphale, standing on the wall, looking out over the departing Adam, Eve and Flaming Sword. 

So, now we have 7 spikes! It’s not the only change, either. Take a look at the shape, size, colour and weathering of these walls.

So, what’s happened here? The only conclusion I have is that the Good Omens team have purposefully used two different digital assets when creating the VFX for Eden. The reason it flew under everyone’s radar is because these two shots are separated by roughly 4 minutes in total!

But you know what? I think the Good Omens team have been trying to drop hints all along. Check out this post from a fan who attended an event and was told about multiple Edens by Michael Ralph. What else have they been dropping hints about? Lots, I suspect.

With thanks to all the detectives @embracing-the-ineffable, @theastrophysicistnextdoor, @noneorother, @somehow-a-human, @komorezuki, @maufungi, @lookingatacupoftea, @havemyheartaziraphale, @251-dmr, @dunkthebiscuit, and @ghstptats <3

[beebopboom]

*Flashback to conversation with Metatron*

“..to restore your friend, Crowley, to full angelic status.”

Restore: return (someone or something) to a former condition, place, or position.

*What Aziraphale says to Crowley*

“He said I could appoint you to be an angel..”

Appoint: assign a job or role to (someone)

So which is it Aziraphale? Like I know you’re basically saying the same thing but those two words have some very different connotations.

[embracing-the-ineffable]

The Honolulu Roast sign appears in the middle of a scene?! AND the lamp moves?!

Ok, I've been internally screaming about this since yesterday so I'm making a separate post to share more widely:

@snek-eyes has a lovely post about the use of an instrumental of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody playing in the coffeeshop, you should definitely read it here. And then @kayleefansposts pointed out that this sign just ... appears?

I thought maybe it was a weird change in camera angle or focal depth or something, so I went back and got some of my own screenshots. As far as I can see, the sign just MATERIALIZES while the camera is on Aziraphale.

AND I realized shortly after posting this that it ALSO looks like the lamp moves further away from the menus and Crowley!

Go back and watch this scene and let me know what you think! And here it is, one more time, with marks to help clarify what I'm seeing with both the sign AND the lamp's position on the wall:

Edit: @indigovigilance tracked down a possible symbolic meaning behind "Honolulu" and "Queen", here.

Interested in diving further into all the Good Omens mysteries? I have lots more of my own posts plus Clues and metas from all over the fandom, here.

[embracing-the-ineffable]

"Ducks have ears but so do people" 🤣

You know what else we both have?! Eyes and brains. The clues go back to season 1, they just got more obvious and plentiful in season 2....

This has probably been addressed already, but since I’ve not seen it elsewhere I’m going to go ahead and share it here. 

Good Omens Episode 1x02 ‘The Book’ begins with Gabriel and Sandolphon crossing a busy SoHo street toward Aziraphale’s book shop. We see a goodly amount of extras going about their business, including this person

Cut to the Archangels entering the shop and doing their thoroughly convincing and not at all awkward Human Impersonations as they make it known that they want to purchase a material object (book) but must do so in secret (because pornography). Of course this is all in the guise of checking in re: progress on The Great Plan which is, as we know, not going very well.  Anyway, who happens to overhear this awkward convo?  THIS GUY. 

So. He’s walked past, and away from, the shop. But at this moment he’s also already inside the shop and is deep into perusal of one of the books.  At first, I attributed it to a continuity glitch, but considering the care that was taken with every last detail of production that doesn’t track.  Who would be alarmed by, or at the very least curious about, the earthly visit of archangels two days before the anticipated Armageddon? Who might’ve already had a plan in motion, ineffable though it be, that hinged on the actions/choices of a certain principality? Who wanted to be certain that one half of her OTP was not in any real peril because he still had work to do and, ultimately, a demon to snog?  Not saying God threw on a fantastic disguise and popped into the bookshop that day, but also not dismissing the possibility. 

[rada-76]

«Непостижимое Детективное Агентство» представляет:

«Как это понимать — существуют ДВА Эдема?»

Этот пост перевела Rada_76.

Помните, как нам показали два разных кадра стен Эдема в первом сезоне? Один — приближение, другой — отдаление, и они замыкают сцену. Вот они — один за другим…

Я не видела, чтобы кто-то упоминал об этом раньше, но это РАЗНЫЕ СТЕНЫ. Да, вы правильно меня поняли. Нам показали два совершенно разных Эдема. Давайте поговорим об этом, хорошо?

Дьявол кроется в деталях…

Попробуйте вспомнить — сколько шипов торчит из стен Эдема? Я упрощу задачу — 7 или 10?

Вы ответили 7? Что ж, поздравляю, вы наполовину угадали!

Вы ответили 10? Что ж, поздравляю, вы тоже наполовину угадали!

Все верно — на этих отрывках мы видим ДВЕ версии Эдема.

Вот Эдем, который нам показывают сначала, когда камера проносится над бескрайними песками, а сверху вещает Бог. Внимательно посмотрите на дизайн стен здесь, особенно на эти шипы. Вот опоры, из которых торчит по три шипа. Теперь взгляните на прясла (простенки) между ними...

10 шипов!

А затем, под конец, Кроули и Азриафель стоят на стене и смотрят на уходящих Еву и Адама с Пламенным Мечом.

Так, теперь у нас 7 шипов! И это не единственное изменение. Взгляните на форму, размер, цвет и выветривание этих стен.

Итак, что же здесь происходит? Единственный вывод, который я могу сделать, заключается в том, что команда Good Omens намеренно использовала две разных цифровых заготовки при создании визуальных эффектов для Эдема. Причина, по которой это осталось незамеченным, заключается в том, что эти два кадра разделены примерно четырьмя минутами в общей сложности!

Но знаете что? Я думаю, что команда Good Omens все это время пыталась на что-то намекнуть. Посмотрите на этот пост поклонницы (перевод поста ниже), которая посетила мероприятие и которой Майкл Ральф рассказал о нескольких версиях Эдема. О чем еще нам намекали? О многом, я подозреваю.

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Пост поклонницы.

Eden / Эдем

Одним из самых интересных моментов посещения съемочной площадки «Благих знамений» был разговор с художником-декоратором Майклом Ральфом. В основном речь шла о книжном магазине, но еще он рассказал о том, что было до окончания работы над первым сезоном, о том, как он впервые воображал и рисовал концепт-арт для всего. Он представлял, что Эдемский сад, конечно, находился бы в стенах, а за этими стенами была бы огромная пустыня.

И что в этой пустыне есть остатки первых попыток построить другие Эдемы. Неудачные прототипы теперь остались, чтобы превратиться в руины.

Я много думаю об этом сейчас. О том, что могло быть в других Эдемах, и что осталось, когда их бросили.

[thedeepgreensea]

Her <3 (in hommage to all the flashback scenes we wont be getting in 90 mins </3)

[lookingatacupoftea]

Hive mind, I need help. I'm sure we've talked about this before, but my brain is spinning on it tonight. As always, Occam's razor says that the face value interpretation is the most likely option. But, if we entertain something more unusual (please don't tag or ask Neil about fan theories) --

What is really happening in the lightning scene?

GIF by fuckyeahgoodomens

Here are my issues:

Crowley has big feelings, yes, and he's never very careful about hiding his otherness from humans. But this is such a flashy move to make in public!*

The writing is a bit clunky. Good Omens characters rarely tell us or each other directly how they're feeling, which is how we end up arguing over lines like "You go too fast for me" and "I forgive you." But here he straight up tells us he's angry.

The lightning only hits the coffee shop, no other buildings on the street.

During the lightning, some people on the street appear to be frozen but not everyone*, and Maggie and Nina aren't frozen. Afterward, the crowd walks on, unphased.

The sky brightens back to daytime and Crowley walks on. He does not go to the Bentley. We see the Bentley through the coffee shop window for the rest of the scene where Nina and Maggie discuss being locked in. But the next time we see Crowley, it's dark and the Bentley is parked in the mews.

What I'm suggesting here is that this scene is faked. Crowley is acting, and overacting a bit. To what end?

*These could cancel each other out. Let's say Crowley is genuinely losing his temper, but not enough so that he forgets he needs to momentarily hypnotize humans in the vicinity so they don't see this display. But it doesn't work on everyone because some people on Whickber Street are actually demonic/angelic spies on the hunt for Gabriel.

[ineffable-detective-agency]

DAVID WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO YOUR HAND?!

Welcome to AI hands and fingers hell!

Does Crowley have a third hand?! An extra finger? Two left arms?!

He looks as surprised by it as we are!

This hilarious, reality-defying PSA is brought to you after a collective brain meltdown among the entire Ineffable Detective Agency.

Members who want to share our confusion with the Good Omens fandom include: @bbbitchvibbbez @embracing-the-ineffable @kimberleyjean @maufungi @noneorother @theastrophysicistnextdoor @thebluestgreen

See more of our posts plus a collection of Clues and metas from all over the fandom, here.

[straightasaaro]

me and my girls

me and @stell-is-real’s group chat is so normal. Like it’s only three people with the same semi cringey name that’s been there for three years. It keeps telling us that someone else changed the profile pic even though it’s stayed firmly alpha wolf Crowley having a mental breakdown. I started crying in an ikea parking lot because I found out our printer wasn’t working and my mom was unwilling to draw David tennant so my pride parade sign might not be how I wanted. @stell-is-real started crying when I first sent her the idea. And the third cried in self loathing when she got her nails painted the color she picked out but then suddenly hated.

gay friend groups am I right

[writtenin-blood]

My literal one comfort in this life is that if we don't get a good omens s3 (PLEASE PRIME PLEASE PLEASE) Neil has promised us a book so it isn't left unfinished (love you Neil)

So we WILL get an ending for the story and we WILL know what happens and what the characters think (as books tend to have more detail about that kinda stuff) anyways

I'M STILL GONNA NEED A SEASON 3 PRIME OR ISTG I WILL COMMIT A WAR CRIME

IN 100 YEARS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REMEMBER THE STORY AND THE CHARACTERS IN IT (ACTORS) NOT THE FUCKING COMPANY THAT PRODUCED IT

PAY YOU'RE FUCKING WRITERS AND ACTORS YOU OWE THEM EVERYTHING YOU SELFISH BASTARDS-

thank you for coming to my TED talk and i will be passing away without a s3 👍